David

[David]

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I saw that dialog box in v4. I opened my file in the new freeSHIP and opened that up and all the boxes under symmetrical were already un-marked. It didn’t make any sense to me, but I just figured it was an incompatibility between v2 and v4. I couldn’t find anything similar in v2 either. After reading you note I tried again, just in case I over looked something obvious.

The pic is what I see when I open the layer properties in v4.

I was poking around a bit more and I discovered if I un-marked the box called “hydro-statics” the symmetrical box automatically became checked. So I could do this and then (I think) take the file back into V2. Maybe I should ask first though…

What am I giving up by un-marking the box “hydro-statics”? Anything important in a simple skiff development? Chances are I can live with out hydro-statics, but I would love to know for sure. Cheers

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Marven, Thanks.

If I understand correctly after I insert the deck all I need to do is move the control point around (the one in the heart of the red). I should be able to do that by hand. I’m guessing I need to move it by a very tiny amount. Any hints you can give me as the direction and amount. My first attempts at this changed the red splotch, but have yet to reduce it.

Cheers, Dave

ps thanks for the offer on the GUI but I think my best bet is get everything back to green, if possible.

[David]

I repeat the exercise in v4 FREE!ship. I’m tring to look to see if the topside plates have changed. They are bloody red, but don’t they look like they are identical?

Klaus — Do I need to ‘sub-divide the net’ Please tell me there is another way!!

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Thing are coming along! I haven’t been able to clean up the leak points though. When I zoom way in, and I look at the new edge it is made up of two separate edges. Each of these edges are connected to alternating points along the line between the transom and hull. I assume this explains the 310 leak points in my most detailed model. Can I merge these two edges? I think that would end my challenges.

Thanks again, Dave

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[David]

Yes, I think it is an improvement when I use even more control points. And it’s not crashing my computer, yet. I’m hoping that this amount of red will not effect the final cut.

Of coarse I still have to find a way to save in as an older version (v2.6). Version 4.4 (Free Ship) doesn’t give me that option.

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It’s coming along! Is there a way to make the new edge one long continuous edge? It seem to be made up of many short edges over top of each other (maybe that is a result of my clipping and trimming job). I assume because of this new discontinuous edge I have many more leek points (~84). Should I care about the leek points?

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[David]

Klaus, Thanks You!!! I’m getting somewhere with your instructions. I’m not out of the woods, yet… One problem is v2.6 does not seem to have the function “sub-divide control net”. So for now, I’m practicing in v4.4. I’ve been creasing the edges after I intersect the layers, which I assume is a necessary step, and it usually makes some of the hull ‘red’. If I understand your discussion, sub-dividing the the control net more and more should keep reducing this problem. That’s what I’m playing with right know. It is amazing see things come together on the screen.

Tschüs, Dave

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I’m thinking the file is corrupt. I just wonder why? Maybe my version of 3.2 is broken (Version 3.2+ is what information is given on the title page as the program loads). So… I wonder if my program will also wreck any DXF file I try to save. Do you have any way of testing a DXF? Just in case you do, I’ll attach one for you.

So strange that I never had this problem in the past. I recall having to reload WINDOWS not too long ago. Maybe when I put Free!Ship back on my HD I used an executable file that went bad in the interim time period. That is a real shame if that’s the case.

Hmmm… DXF files don’t seem to be an allowed file format in the forum. I couldn’t upload it as an attachment. Marven, if you or anyone else following the thread has a way to test a DXF file I’d love to know if they are any good. I’ll list my email; anybody interested in helping please give a shout. We should be able to email it back and forth I would think. Thanx, Dave

dwood@lostgringo.com

[David]

marven did reply. I just didn’t see it. I don’t think anybody’s feelings are hurt by using the old version. And I’m finding it a practical solution to the problem. It is challenging however, saving file in 3.2 that are compatible with 2.6. In fact, of the 4 times I’ve tried I’ve only been successful once. Not sure why I was successful that one time either. Cheers.

[David]

Thanks, I didn’t see your post because it was on the 2nd page. Cheers. Glade to know I am not treading on hallowed ground.

[David]

I usually have about a 10^o ‘v’ dead-rise. I would like to still have one sheet for the bottom; bending it at the center line for the portions aft and not having a weld all the the way down the keel. Is that something DELFT can help me do? That is the way many aluminum jet boats are constructed for additional strength.

[David]

mf, you can find older version of DELFT on line and download. 2.6 allows you to export from the plate development window. It is called FREE!ship 2.6, but I think it is the same as DELFT. In a different thread I asked marven about it but he hasn’t responded; could be this is a taboo subject. Careful because files are not backwards compatible.

[David]

bummer about auto fairing. thanks for the idea on measuring the angles. I will give that a try. I’ve been also using a program call FREE!ship. It shares much in common with DELFT. Can you tell me what if any relationship these two programs have. and it appears the FREE!ship website points to the DELFT domain. is that your trademark? your program?

[David]

another question while i have your attention: is there a tool in 3.2 i can use to measure angles on the screen? i am currently holding up a protractor to the screen so i can confirm my dead rise. i’d love to know the correct way to do that. Thanks, Dave

[David]

only the end points are corners which i think is normal. [file name=test_for_forum.fbm size=34758]http://www.delftship.net/delftship/media/kunena/attachments/legacy/files/test_for_forum.fbm[/file]

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