Need Linesplan.

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    • #38299
      giorgio zuppin
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      Hello Everybody, with a deep feeling of ignorance I recently stumbled upon a ship never heard before (sic).
      It’s about “Stad Amsterdam” a newly built Clipper son of the amazing talent of G.Dijkstra – love at first sight!
      Since I’ve recently draw a merchant schooner, I’m eager to try this one, problem : Linesplan – or the lack of.
      Is there anybody who can help???
      Thanks in advance.
      Jurgen.

    • #38300
      Robert Holme
      Participant

      This link may give you what you want.

      https://grabcad.com/library/clipper-stad-amsterdam-1#!

      Regards
      Bob

    • #38301
      giorgio zuppin
      Participant

      Mr.Maryak, you’r a relief for our poor souls!
      That site is an Aladdin’s Cave.
      But…(I’m an old B. I know) the pure nautical part of that rendering is, well, not so accurate.
      I’ve considered the linesplan of “Termopylae” fastest known Clipper at the time, Very different, think the Author has done a good graphic job with a bit of guessing here and there.
      What a Life could be without troubles?
      Bye, Jurgen.

    • #38302
      Jürgen Sass
      Participant

      Lines plan Thermopylae

      js

    • #38304
      Jürgen Sass
      Participant

      Lines plan Thermopylae

      js
      Thermopylae.jpg

    • #38306
      giorgio zuppin
      Participant

      This IS a hotspot in the topic, my opinion, enough to be said no one here has a corporate interest but a mere passion to defend.
      The Quest for trustwhorthy Linesplan, is a depiction of how Internet sources must be taken “cum grano salis” as Latins said i.e. with a robust dose af scepticism and a work of cross reference.
      Take this:
      11.jpg
      Among the poor .JPG you can spot Big differences, I say it’s another ship.
      At the top Sassdesign contribution, below the one taken from Wikipedia!
      Somebody can say I’m a little paranoid but, as Mr.Dijkstra allegedly sais (Wikipedia) the design is based on, not a copy of Clipper lines, with the goal of enhanced performance.
      So how you can make a decent guess without affordable sources?
      Jurgen.

    • #38318
      giorgio zuppin
      Participant

      Here again,not to complain but just to share some sites of ( for someone) interest.
      http://www.histarmar.com.ar/index.htm
      A nice well hidden trove of peculiar maritime info, there’s a niche with quite clear linesplan.
      And of course the site of National Maritime Museum – Greenwich, plenty of original drawings, accurate prints on sell.
      At the moment I produced a scaled down model drawing of Thermopylae,

      next would be a Frankenstein i.e. a mix with old linesplan and Stad Amsterdam pics: we’ll see.
      Bye and thanks, Jurgen.

    • #38322
      Robert Holme
      Participant

      Hi Jurgen,

      Nice Clipper 🙂

      Whilst on the subject of old famous sailing ships. Do you, or in fact any members, have a lines plan of HMS Beagle. She was a Cherokee Class Brig converted to a Barque for the Darwin expeditions. There are plenty of outlines but a bodyplan is elusive to say the least.

      Regards
      Bob

    • #38324
      giorgio zuppin
      Participant

      A brief incursion in Greenwich Maritime Museum Site:

      large.jpg
      Her’s the adress http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/84646.html
      If this is the only relic remaining, no hope of linesplan!
      Bye, Jurgen.

    • #38325
      giorgio zuppin
      Participant

      Got more:
      http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections.html#!csearch;authority=vessel-293394;browseBy=vessel;vesselFacetLetter=A
      Of course she is the original brig, so maybe useless…
      Jurgen.

    • #38326
      giorgio zuppin
      Participant

      Not so useless, Athol plans are quite well readable even with a dull download.
      To a barque conversion only a new rigging on Mizzen should do the job, it remains to search amongst contemporary sources the real modifications undergone for that peculiar voyage.
      Cheers, Jurgen.

    • #38327
      Robert Holme
      Participant

      Hi Jurgen,

      Thank you very much.

      From my reading, there were virtually no mods to the hull it was just the rig conversion to a barque by poking a 3rd mast down through the Captains Cabin and the sail plan. In addition armament was subtracted and added and in general played around with depending on which voyage you care to draw from.

      Why my sudden interest…………….a US colleague of mine on another forum is interested in building a Beagle model and I am assisting him where possible.

      Regards
      Bob

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