Hello – Possible new user looking for info.

DELFTship forum General Questions Hello – Possible new user looking for info.

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    • #38381
      Greg Martell
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      Hello. I am doing research into hull design software. I am a retired New Zealand boatbuilder looking to design and build a smallish sailing trimaran, a personal project. I am a former user of Maxsurf (early mid 2000’s) but let my license lapse after closing my shop in 2006. Would love to chat with designers both professional and amateur who are using Delftship for sailing pleasure craft design to hear of your experiences.

      I am currently Mac OSX based. Delftship is a windows based program. Anyone running a dual boot Mac or using something like Parallels to run Delftship? Is it recommended that I buy a windows machine?

      What are designers choosing to use to create their construction drawings and model their vessels once done with Delftship? I am currently using Sketchup Pro to design commercial interiors and wondered about its suitability. I realise that programs like Rhino, Solidworks and Ashlar’s Xenon or Cobalt etc are more often used in the marine industry that Sketchup. Would love to get some feed back about exporting hull surfaces from DS into your choice of modelling software.

      Thanks in advance. Greg.

    • #38382
      Tim Stewart
      Participant

      Hi Greg,

      personally, once the hull has been finalised in Delftship Pro., I use TurboCAD Pro for all other 3D work.
      However, if you are only interested in 2D, then TurboCAD Designer is more than adequate.
      You pays your money and makes your choice!
      Others, will have their own prejudices/preferences. 🙂

      Regards Tim

    • #38385
      Robert Holme
      Participant

      Hi Greg,

      personally, once the hull has been finalised in Delftship Pro., I use TurboCAD Pro for all other 3D work.
      However, if you are only interested in 2D, then TurboCAD Designer is more than adequate.
      You pays your money and makes your choice!
      Others, will have their own prejudices/preferences. 🙂

      Regards Tim

      Almost identical. On my retirement I upgraded from TurboCAD delux to TurboCAD Pro to facilitate my hobby of model engineering. I use the free version of Delftship and just like Tim I import the hull into Turbocad for the rest of the ship/boat.

      Enlarged photo of my avatar. Which was a ship I stood by when she was building and later returned as Senior Engineer.

      The Delftship parts are:
      Hull to main deck
      Bilge keels
      Rudders

      Brisbane1_2016-06-15.jpg

      Regards
      Bob

    • #38388
      Greg Martell
      Participant

      Thank you Tim and Bob for your reply. I had not considered TurboCad.

      Thanks Bob for the example of your work. Looks like quite a few hours invested!

    • #38389
      giorgio zuppin
      Participant

      Hello there, no useful tips at all ’cause I’m an autodesk happy customer.
      But, may I make a point here?
      There’s something to be said about Delftship on sketching not only hullforms but even some dull deck’s parts.
      Could be redundant (on sheer drawing needs) but it’s a drill you’ll find it worth in time…
      Just for ex.:

      All this work about edges points and layers helps you as a workout for manage the program’s potentiality.
      Bye, Jurgen.

    • #38390
      Greg Martell
      Participant

      There’s something to be said about Delftship on sketching not only hullforms but even some dull deck’s parts.
      Could be redundant (on sheer drawing needs) but it’s a drill you’ll find it worth in time…
      Just for ex.:

      All this work about edges points and layers helps you as a workout for manage the program’s potentiality.

      Hello Jurgen. Thank you for the info. You are saying that Delftship is good for more than just hull shapes? I would love to look at the file you attached. Is it a file to be opened with Delftship? Is so, as of yet I do not have the program. I am still in the process of deciding weather to use on my Apple Mac or buy a windows PC just to run Delftship.

      Cheers

    • #38391
      Tim Stewart
      Participant

      Greg,

      if you are serious about what you are wanting to do, then I would recommend getting a PC.
      It would simply give you far more options, in this field.
      Who knows, you may become a windows convert!

      Regards Tim

    • #38398
      Greg Martell
      Participant

      … if you are serious about what you are wanting to do, then I would recommend getting a PC.
      It would simply give you far more options, in this field.

      Thank you. I will look into picking up a windows machine.

      I see that Delfship can run under Win 7, 8 & 10. I can get a 2nd hand PC with Win 7 for pretty cheap. Any warnings I should heed about using an older machine?

      Cheers.

    • #38399
      giorgio zuppin
      Participant

      Win 7 it’s the best choice, must be a dual core, not less 4Gb RAM, do not expect good grafic perfs.
      If the program copes your needs, consider a separate graphic card purchase: a warning, could cost you more than an entire machine, but for a pro work it’s compulsory.
      Best wishes, Jurgen.

    • #38400
      Tim Stewart
      Participant

      Greg,

      there are myriad amounts of info. available on the internet, and, many conflicting opinions.
      However, I would simply advise looking for a PC which can run 64-bit windows, any flavour, 7,8,10.
      I use Win 10 and like it for many reasons – but nothing is ever perfect.
      Delftship is not resource hungry, so 4-8Gb of RAM will be ok.
      Most on-board graphics will be fine for your needs unless you get into serious rendering.
      Maybe in the future?

      Regards Tim

    • #38497
      Greg Martell
      Participant

      Hello again… I have sorted a Windows 10 64bit machine with 4 Gb RAM. I have downloaded the latest free version of DelftShip but when I try to open it I get a Runtime error 217 at 000000000043D9C0. Any idea where to go to from here? For some reason I cannot open the software. Many thanks in advance. Greg.

    • #38499
      Greg Martell
      Participant

      I have downloaded the latest free version of DelftShip but when I try to open it I get a Runtime error 217 at 000000000043D9C0. Any idea where to go to from here?

      Looks like a Runtime error 217 is an issue with local time and date settings. Basically, after getting my (2nd hand) machine up and running with a new Win 10 install, I did not wait long enough for Win to update itself with a correct time and date sync. I left the machine to do its stuff overnight, tried to open DelftShip the next morning and it all worked!

      Cheers.

    • #38532
      John Owles
      Participant

      Hello Greg,
      I too use a Windows machine – a now old Dell Inspiron 1720 notebook, 32bit and it works fine. I design and build traditionally rigged open sailing boats, luggers, gaffers and such. I use DS Pro, so far with no addons, for everything interior thwarts, tanks, centreboard and rudder etc, as well as the hull. Using layers and saving a number of iterations of the design. Export 2d curves to DXF and use TurboCad for final work on the building jig, to fix the locations of the station station moulds and to jointing of some critical parts in 2d. everything is then printed full sizefor patterns or cut on a cnc laser.

      Apart from DS, 3d modelling beats me, just can’t get it to cooperate with my pencil and paper brain. There again I don’t really have us for it in the workshop. As long as I have dimensioned drawings and 2d patterns I am happy.

      Have fun.

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