Wanted fishing boat 11m plan

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    • #39007
      francois
      Participant

      hello,
      I am looking for the plan of a fishing boat. length 11m around
      I am ready to pay for this plan
      thank’s in advance
      best regards

    • #39013
      Jürgen Sass
      Participant

      Welcome aboard
      This hull can be adapted to your needs. What speed and what payload do you wish?
      JS
      sassdesign.net

    • #39014
      francois
      Participant

      Hello, thanks to your answer. 11 m , mater Baku 3,5 draft 0,80, payload 7 t.
      0,40 for Bulwarks, 1.2 front above the sea, 0,8 around aft above the water line
      A deck salon on the deck
      Best regards
      François

    • #39016
      Jürgen Sass
      Participant

      What speed? As my sketch looks right now, the displacement is 7 m ^ 3. Payload is usually +/- 17% of design displacement.

      JS

      sass@sassdesiign.net

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    • #39017
      francois
      Participant

      7 nuts will be nice for the speed. The design of the type of hull I want to built look like
      http://www.barbaros-tekne .com.tr/950ab.html
      But 11m around
      François

    • #39025
      iosif gross
      Participant

      Hi Francois

      At the link bellow, a boat named 35′ STEEL MY, double chine hull, can be built from steel or plywood
      They may have different deck plans to suit your needs
      http://www.selway-fisher.com/Mcover30.htm
      Coster 36 of Bruce Roberts
      http://www.bruceroberts.com/public/HTML/COASTWORKER-36.htm
      Kingfisher 36 of Sam Delvin
      https://www.devlinboat.com/2016/03/kingfisher-36/
      After checking Barbados boat yard, I understand that they are building wooden boats on request, some very old designs.
      What is the specific boat you are talking about?

      Best wishes
      Iosif

    • #39034
      francois
      Participant

      hi İosif,
      did you have a look to the link I gave to you?
      that is the type of boat İ want to build using playwood using a planing hull, straight frame for aft and smooth curving to the front.
      cordialement
      Framçois

    • #39036
      Jürgen Sass
      Participant

      A planing hull shape is highly unsuitable at the speed, seven knots, that you are aiming for. Seven knots on a ten meter waterline is also a little inappropriate. It requires very high accuracy of the ships stern design. This is especially true of the depth of the transom. That’s what appears in my suggestion, but it has to be adapted to seven knots. The boats you refer to do not match this low speed.

      JS

    • #39037
      iosif gross
      Participant

      Hi Francois

      Yes, I check the link you have posted, it is to the Turkish version, bellow the link to the English version:
      http://www.barbaros-tekne.com.tr/950ab-en.html
      Length : 9.50 m
      Beam : 3.40 m
      Draught : 1 m
      Weight : 4.5 t
      Fuel Capacity : 220-350 lt
      Engine : 100-240 HP
      Speed : Appr. 7-16 miles/h
      Certificate : CE
      The deck is a trawler shape. It is also much less than 11 meter 7 ton load.
      It is an old design, round bilge hull built from wood. It may be even from the time of Piri Reis.
      It is not a boat that you are going to build yourself from plans. You need a boat yard specialized in wooden boats with skilled workers.
      I assure you the boat is high quality, have many Turkish boat yards specialized on wooden boats.
      You can see the work from the photo’s.
      At the links I sent you are boats that may fit your needs:
      * COASTER- COASTWORKER 36 of Bruce Roberts is a two chines boat and Bruce plans are accurate and easy to go with.
      * 35′ STEEL MY is also a double chine. They may have plans for the deck as well. You may send them an email and ask for.

      The Dauntless by Glen L
      I forget in my previous post a link to a boat from Glen L that maybe will be the most suitable for you, the Dauntless:
      http://www.boatdesigns.com/36-Dauntless-commercial-work-boat/products/533/
      The boat is a 36 feet that is 11 meters
      I built in the past a small boat with Glen L plans for a friend, excellent drawings and instructions.
      He have also a few books about boat building, very useful.
      You can buy study plans for this boat for $US 15
      You can see the specifications in the link bellow:
      http://www.glen-l.com/designs/workboat/dauntless.html
      It is a hard chine hull so more easy to build.

      Hull type: Semi-displacement, hard chine hull with efficient speed range to 10 knots.

      An other boat that using the same hull is the Odyssea:
      http://www.glen-l.com/designs/cruiser/odyssea.html
      In the link you may find also a few useful pictures to understand the design

      Best wishes
      Iosif

    • #39038
      iosif gross
      Participant

      Hi JS

      The pictures you have sent may fit Francois needs, if you will send a side view including the deck to see if have enough aft deck for fishing.
      By the way, I understand that Francois want to build the boat, building plans are available for the boat in the pictures?
      Regarding steering at 7 Knots:
      I think Francois talks about 7 Knots as a minimum acceptable, the Turkish yard boat speed is 7 to 16 miles/h
      If you will use outboards, no steering problems there.
      With an inboard, you will need a relatively big rudder or side trust at very low speeds.
      Non of the boats I proposed have planing hull shape, they are not intended to plane as they are displacement hulls and double chins is relatively easy to build.

      Best wishes
      Iosif

    • #39043
      Jürgen Sass
      Participant

      It is only possible to optimize a hull for one single speed and total weight. It can then be a displacement hull, a semi-planing hull or a planing hull. The proposed hull shape, however, has a very large speed register where it is advantageous. The entire interior and superstructure can of course be adapted to the current needs.

      JS

      11000.jpg

    • #39044
      francois
      Participant

      Hello Iosif and JS
      thank you very much to take times to pay attention to my request. We are a little boatyard in a village in the south of Turkey near Marmaris. We love classic boat and the last restauration we did was a boat drawing by the boatyard De Vix (nederland ) 20m in 1936. Its a passion. Tomorrow I will be back at home and I will send you some pictures. We built boat but all the time with the plan that the customer or architect give to us.
      This boat is a personnal project and I was wondering if a classsic round bill hull shape can be adapted with straight bill hull to be available to use plywood triying to keep the vision of a classical shape like the pictures i send to you
      the link you send to us was interesting. I will buy the study plan.
      cordialement
      François

    • #39045
      iosif gross
      Participant

      Hi François

      I lived in Turkey from 1996 to 2006.
      I love the people and the country (as it was back there, don’t know today 🙂 )
      Love the weather, the west coast from Cesme via Kusadasi, south coat of Bodrum, Marmaris, Fethie &&&
      They are building beautiful classic boats from wood, different sizes of Gulet. They are work extensive and very skilled workers.
      God luck with your project, don’t forget to update us from time to time 🙂

      Best wishes
      Iosif

    • #39046
      iosif gross
      Participant

      Hi JS

      Can get study plans for the boat?
      Detailed construction drawings are available?
      I think that what François needs.

      Best wishes
      Iosif

    • #39049
      Jürgen Sass
      Participant

      All my boats are designed in close cooperation with the clients, usually professional boat builders. It is important that all requirements match each other, especially the minimum and maximum speed and the minimum and maximum total weight.

      So even in this case.
      As this is not stated so far, there is no basis for more than the displayed sketch.

      Of course, I have made calculations based on my assumption about what the user might require. This is mostly for my own part to ensure that it is doable.

      You are welcome in a creative dialogue via email
      sass at sassdesign.net
      JS

    • #39057
      francois
      Participant

      Hi Iosif;
      like i promise some pictures of boat that I built or restore.
      Telkel – spountz 44-40 I built entirely
      Saint Christopher – we restored; the boat arrived just the hull totally empty and no deck or masts with another boat
      cordialement
      François

    • #39059
      francois
      Participant

      one more of St Christophe

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    • #39060
      iosif gross
      Participant

      Hi François

      Beautiful classic and the finish very nice. Those old designs are still going and will always go 🙂
      I attested an eastern Mediterranean classic fishing boat of about 24 meter building.
      The construction team replaced rib by rib, each accurately copied and made from new wood, than the stringers and then the planks.
      Of course the finish level was completely different than the boat in your pictures. They also replaced the deck and superstructure with plywood instead wood plank. Much more easy 🙂
      Anyhow, wish you a good selection for the private project, maybe you can email to JS to see more details on his proposal.

      Best wishes
      Iosif

    • #39061
      iosif gross
      Participant

      Hi JS

      I checked out your www, book marked it also.
      It is in Swedish, didn’t find an English version, but I understand a few things as I was fluent in German when young.
      I am not a naval architect, just a hobbyist 🙂
      Worked with ruler and mouse tail weights until I started with AutoCAD and then found DELFTship that for 150 Euro I am getting everything I need, not less in my opinion than any software of thousands of $
      I designed and built a few small boats, the biggest was a 7 meter small yacht, can see it in the “not good” picture of my profile, I was 36 at the time (1986, I am an old man already 🙂 )
      Will write you an email

      Best wishes
      Iosif

    • #39084
      francois
      Participant

      Hello Iosif,
      Just “un clin d’oeil” we have the same age and retired like you……
      I follow your advice, order 2 study plans from “Boatsdesign” and decide to order the licence for Delftship.
      I use a planing hull to arrive to what I want and I make the design of the hull we want to start. But impossible to export the hull informations, the button is out of order ( grey) and when I want to save the lines plan (dxf file) impossible to open the file; I just arrive to open the file with my Ipad. I put the dxf file perhaps you will arrive
      Cordialement
      François

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    • #39092
      iosif gross
      Participant

      Hi François

      The file is the coordinated of the DXF file.
      * More easy to see the DXF in AutoCAD or DraftSight 2D if you export them as DXF drawings
      Go to Tools/Lines plan/Save to DXF. Than open the DXF file in one of the programs I mention above.
      I am working with DraftSight 2D because is almost 100% compatible with AutoCAD but is free 🙂 The 3D cost money, but for me 2D is enough. If using DraftSight you should click on “Zoom Bounds” to get the the DXF to the center. You can save it as DWG file.
      DraftSight is a product of Dassault Systems and have French version
      https://www.3ds.com/products-services/draftsight-cad-software/free-download/

      * You may also want to see the stress of your panels an correct them if necessary, so: Tools/Unfold/DXF an you can get it in the CAD program and save as DWG

      This what I am doing so I can work out the drawings for cutting

      By the way, if you are working with wood and just starting with plywood, I am proposing you to buy Glen L Book “Boat Building with Plywood. It is an excellent guide. You can find it in the link bellow;
      http://www.boatdesigns.com/Boatbuilding-with-Plywood/productinfo/12-430/
      I don’t have any connection with them except getting they news letter in my email 🙂

      Best wishes
      Iosif

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